Countable representability of Lie groups

Does every second-countable Lie group admit a faithful action on a countable set, as an abstract group? No continuity of that permutation action is required; the related target extends to locally compact second-countable groups.

Why it matters and what counts as progress

Why it matters: Countable abstract permutation actions ask for algebraic representability without requiring a continuous action of the original topology.

What counts as progress: Construct a faithful countable action for the full class or prove a genuine obstruction in a broader class of groups.

How the problem developed

  1. 2021 · Partial result [1]

    Nicolas Monod Established countable representability for nilpotent Lie groups, the first general non-linear family treated in this form.

  2. 2023 · Partial result [2]

    Annalisa Conversano and Nicolas Monod Proved representability for solvable Lie groups and groups with a linear Levi component, reducing the remaining question to the simple case.

  3. 13 Oct 2026 · Reported theorem [3]

    Nicolas Monod and Andreas Thom Reported that every Lie group acts faithfully by permutations on a countable set, answering Ulam’s question.

AI contribution

Sources

  1. Monod, Lie groups as permutation groups: Ulam’s problem in the nilpotent case
  2. Conversano and Monod, Lie groups in the symmetric group: Reducing Ulam’s problem to the simple case
  3. Original paper v1: statement, prior work and AI contribution
  4. Full manuscript and limitations
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